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Episode 7 – “Male Survivors” featuring Jeffery M. Leving (Father’s Rights Attorney), Christopher Smith (Attorney), and Gabe Wright (male rape survivor).

FEB 15, 2012  Episode 7 – Hands Off Our Children:  Male Survivors featuring Jeffery M. Leving (Father’s Rights Attorney), Christopher Smith (Attorney), and Gabe Wright (male rape survivor).

Jeffery M. Leving is the internationally acclaimed author of two ground-breaking books, Fathers’ Rights and Divorce Wars and was selected by his peers as one of Illinois’ top attorneys. Of the same firm, Christopher Smith, is also committed to protecting the rights of fathers and their children with the goal fostering continuing and positive relationships and strengthening the bonds that lead them to a more rewarding life. Both Jeffery and Chris are going to tell us what every parent should know about children without fathers.

When Christopher “The Battlefield” Smith goes into court, on behalf of his clients, failure is simply not an option.  Christopher earned his Juris Doctorate at Loyola Law School in Los Angeles and although his practice is now focused exclusively on family law, he also has extensive experience representing clients in civil and commercial litigation, bankruptcy and estate planning.  He is licensed to practice law in the state courts of Illinois and Nevada, as well as the United States District Courts for the Northern District of Illinois and the District of Nevada.  Mr. Smith also has a wealth of experience with all forms of Alternative Dispute Resolution, including arbitration and mediation.

Christopher stated that Nevada has been amongst the top 2 or 3 states in the country per capita of children dying from the effects of child abuse and neglect. He goes on to say “Pay attention to what goes on around you.  If you see that is happening to a child, if there is something going wrong, report it to the authorities.  You may save a child’s life.”

In answer to Cogee’s question, “Are abused kids being taken out of abused homes fast enough?” Mr. Smith replied “No!  Nevada and in particular, Clark County our resources are overburdened because some of our elected officials have not taken this situation seriously and have provided the resources to various organizations that can help in this regard to protect our kids. And unless we demand change in that area it is not going to happen. I encourage all your listeners to do just that. Call your city council persons, call your county commisioners,call your state legislatures and let them know that this is an important issue and that it deserves bigger attention and contribution from the state.”

Cogee welcomed Jeffery M. Leving onto the show.  Named one of “America’s Best Lawyers” by Forbes Radio™, Jeffery M. Leving is the internationally acclaimed author of the ground-breaking books, Fathers’ Rights, Divorce Wars, and the soon to be released How to Be a Good Divorced Dad. Leving was congratulated on his new book by President Obama in addition to receiving a recent endorsement by Francis Cardinal George of the Archdiocese of Chicago. As a tireless advocate for Fathers’ Rights, Jeffery M. Leving has co-authored important family laws including the Illinois Joint Custody Law. Leving is also the Governor-appointed Chair of the Illinois Council on Responsible Fatherhood and is also President Emeritus of the Fatherhood Educational Institute.

Cogee gave Mr. Leving a warm welcome, “It’s an honor to have you on my show today.  You are out there fighting.  You know what it is like to be on the battlefield from a fight. You got your wounds from it and you got your wins from it.  Tell us what does it feel like when you go out to fight for a child, the night before you got that big case, how are you inside?”

Leving, “Some nights it is very difficult to sleep…because the most difficult client to represent is a father who is falsely accused of abuse and who is also trying to protect his child who is being abused by a perpetrator of a false allegation(s). Most lawyers are weak, who don’t have fire in their belly. There are very few lawyers out there like Chris Smith that are tigers in a court room and work 24 hours a day to protect children.”

“Our children are in danger. In Nevada, a lot of children are going to grow up with the absence of their fathers.  Sexual abuse for children is the absence of a biological father.  In Nevada, there is such a low paternity establishment rate compared to the great amount of children being born out of wedlock, that is one of the reasons there is such a high rate of sexual abuse.”

“There are many cases of innocent people being convicted of crimes they didn’t commit because the system is broken.  There is terrible discrimination in the system.  According to statistics  66%-70% of African American compared to 35% Hispanic, and 27% of White children living in homes absent of their biological fathers, because the discrimination against African American fathers. It is an epidemic.”
“Any man’s loss of his child diminishes mankind,” says Jeffery.

“According to statistics, children that are father absent are more likely to exhibit violent behavior.  The absence of a biological father increases by 900% the daughter’s vulnerability to rape and sexual abuse.  If you look at the statistics fathers are parents too and are important. There’s a growing correlation between fatherless males and their violence against women.”

Both Jeffery and Chris have defended fathers who have been falsely accused of abuse or molestation and describe how devastating and damaging it can have on not only the father but the child as well, leaving a stigma and a record viewed by future employers.  They both tell how important it is to never admit to a confession for a crime you never committed. “You do have a right to speak to an attorney.  One very important thing to do if you have won a case against false allegations is to ask for a court order to seal documents from being public records and impound the files so no one can have access them.”

Jeffery’s new book “How to Be A Good Divorced Dad” can be ordered online at or call (312)807-3990.

Joining the show is Gabe Wright, who became a male rape victim at the age of 22 and now considers himself a male rape survivor.  He is on the social awareness committee as the male empowerment director at PAVE: Promoting Awareness, Victim Empowerment. Gabe is the Founder and Chief EMPOWERment Guy at The Guys Project. Hear his emotional and yet powerful story!

He wants the main message out there for rape crisis centers and organizations to be changed on how they do their marketing, that they should not only support women and children, but men also.  To as a community, start a conscious effort to stop jokes about male rape and understand it is just as serious.  We need to get men involved and to speak out against violence.  There are a lot of people that will support you, you will be believed.  There might be one person who won’t believe, but there are thousands else that will.  So move on to the next person that will!

This was one show not to miss! Download on itunes today! Every Wednesday tune in live around the world by clicking on the “Listen Live” link here on Like us on facebook and follow us on twitter @HandsOfOC! Listeners can call in at (702)731-1230!


Episode 11 – The Signs of Grieving and Letting Go of the Pain

March 14, 2012 – Episode 11 – Hands Off Our Children: The Signs of Grieving and Letting Go of the Pain

Cogee and his two co-hosts kept the first hour heated with their conversations about community and worldy affairs.  Bringing great solutions and awareness, exposing some of the most hanious molestions, child abuse and murders.

Joining the conversation was special guest Mark Anthony “the Psychic Lawyer,” who’s the author of the best selling book, Never Letting Go: Healing Grief with Help from The Other Side. This book is for anyone interested in contact with the Other Side and for those suffering the loss of a loved one…


Episode 5 – Patrina Wright and Millicent St. Claire

February 1, 2012 marked the 5th episode of the Hands Off Our Children Radio Show featuring Patrina Wright and Millicent St. Claire
Cogee began the show speaking to the fathers,”When you walk away from the home, you leave your children available to be molested…It’s sad that little kids are a sport nowadays for people, not respected, second-hand citizens….Children are not being taken serious. That’s why we are doing this show, we are going to make you accountable!  When our organization catches you slippin’ we are going to make you pay for it!”

Reappearing on the show is Patrina Wright, an adult survivor of child sexual abuse and author of “Still Scarred, Totally Healed: Opening your heart and mind to God’s healing of past hurts” written to spread a message of hope, help and healing. Patrina is the executive director for Crossroad Women and Family Services – an abuse prevention, training and advocacy organization. She is a single mother, minister, author, speaker, producer of a talk show “Restore, Recover, & Rebuild.” Patrina is in the process of birthing a new ministry called “Beyond the Abuse” – where their mission is to help people experience total healing through conferences, retreats,seminars, life-coaching that focuses on recovery.  She also wrote “The Exodus: Breaking Cycles and Changing Lives,”  to help survivors thrive, help them know they can prosper, and teach them how to take the rest of their lives back! They can live again, laugh again and breathe again!

In this episode, Patrina agreed with Cogee’s statement and added that there needs to be a “M.A.D.” movement started among dads, a “Movement Among Dads.” She stated,”It is important to teach your child that you can best protect them if and when they tell you that something is wrong.  Also, as a parent, listen to your children. Talk to them. Let them know it is an open door policy. Abusers can be an adult friend of the family, family members, someone from the church, a young person, a youth, a coach, cousins, older sibling, their friend, etc.”
Patrina encourages parents to start telling your telling their children that their bodies are precious and they belong to them. “Tell them not to give out their personal phone numbers and addresses, or provacative pictures on the internet. Predators will lure them out to a park where they can rape him/her. Predators will lie and say they are 15 but are really 50 years old.  When a child tells their parents that they have been molested or touched, it is important for a parent not to panic.  You need to listen, offer support, affirming courage and goodness. Tell them it is not their fault. Make sure they believe it. Call someone, seek professional help.  Immediately call a pediatrician, have your child examined.  Follow all the steps that are necessary to take action.”

“Children talk without saying a word. Their body language speaks a thousand words.  Let them know that you will protect them no matter what.  Continue to provide support. No matter what people say, let them know that you will stand by them. Reassure them constantly!”

Patrina talks about play-dates and sleepovers.  She does not recommend them. Miss Peaches agreed, saying “Playdates are a No! There’s nothing that your children need to do overnight that the children can’t get done during the day! So, you’re giving yourself a night off at the expense of your child’s innocense or for the rest of their lives?”

Joining the show is Millicent St. Claire, a seasoned seminar leader, inspirational speaker and author. Using her groundbreaking book Simply Ridiculous and the LIGMO (Let It Go, Move On) Self-Mastery Process she helps learners of all ages break through self-limiting beliefs and behaviors and have a new experience of themselves. Millicent’s one-of-a-kind programs and keynotes are remarkable, relevant and unforgettable. She is also the bestselling author for her writing in Unbreakable Spirit along with Lisa Nichols of The Secret.
Millicent speaks about Doctor David Hawkins who wrote “Power vs Force” a map of human consciousness (shame, grief, fear to love, courage, acceptance, enlightenment) The vast majority are operating at the lower levels of consciousness. We have to talk about solutions to heal these things in consciousness!

Millicent stated, “There are solutions to some of this stuff…not all of it.  Some people need to be locked up because they are not going to change, there’s no redemption for them becausec they are too far gone in consciousness. God help them. There are solutions and we need to focus on that. It is a conversation of forgiveness and healing. Hurt People hurt people. It’s spreading in consciousness.”

Miss Peaches,”Unfortunatly, so many people walk around in fear and panic. They don’t want to panic anybody, they don’t want to do this and don’t want to do that…If we all step forward and brought education and awareness forward with conviction then we empower so many more. Panic is when you don’t know what to do, you’re upside down in a whirlwind…that’s Panic. Being aware..that’s empowering!”

Something that helped Millicent was the book,”The Gift of Fear,” by author Gavin DeBecker.  He talks about violence on all levels.  It empowered her with an understanding of how to respond to situations, when a predator approaches, how predators find their prey, how they look at us and their vulnerabilies.  She started to make decisions on how to never be a victim again and that gift of fear, that intuitive voice that we all have…
“Who are we as individuals, who are we collectively, who are we becoming? Are we working on being our best selves? The goal is to teach people to honor and to respect and have a reverence for all of life and live in the higher self and to strive for the higher consciousness…We need to study healing these things in consciousness and addressing the root cause of it.”

Download and listen to this episode for more great conversations with Cogee, Miss Peaches, Elsa Prado, Patrina Wright and Millicent St. Claire!